I have always loved these rides ever since I was around one that was with Conklin years ago. Can anyone tell me what shows currently have these on the road today. Also, why have they all been retired like Pirates?

Funtastic Shows had one at the Puyallup Fair this year. It was beautiful.

This may help you out:

http://www.rideguy.com/f.../topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6224  .

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As far as the retirements go, the Enterprise is a multi-trailer piece, with a non-standard length centerload. Most of these rides are around 25 years old, are starting to require a lot of maintenance -- from what I have been told, the hydraulic system in particular is a problem area.

So, let's recap. Expensive to move, expensive to maintain, no longer the "latest and greatest" -- I think that about covers it.

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you are not completely accurate the enterprise center load is actually quite short for such a big ride. It is no longer than 40 or 42 feet at the most.

In addition to the reasons mentioned above, I beleive each cart has to be raised into place and then bolted, which takes a lot of time.

Adam

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Posted - 10/29/2004 : 12:30:05 AM by karnyman

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you are not completely accurate the enterprise center load is actually quite short for such a big ride. It is no longer than 40 or 42 feet at the most.

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To clarify, I stated "with a non-standard length centerload", not that it was overlength. I recall the discussion here previously that because of the shorter length, it requires a special permit in Pennsylvania, and some other states as well. It's all about the weight loading on bridges that the load would have to go over. The shorter length means that the weight is concentrated in a smaller area, which in some cases could be a problem. Hope this helps.[:D]

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the bridge law means that too much weight from front axle on trailer to rear axle on the semi, to much weight for the short distance, its a heavy load. also 3 trailers, wades still moves one every week this one was link carnivals old one. there is bolts that hold the tubs on the sweeps, 4 per tub that require special torque on each bolt, plus safty pin in every bolt as well. i used to work on the other one that wade used to own before wades sold the old one. we had done work on the hydrolic ram replaced seals, bearings, and the pins that hold it in place, that was in 88 and at that time the pin to hold ram in place was 5000.00 each. metric tapered pins alot of $$$[8]

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Posted - 10/29/2004 : 12:30:05 AM by karnyman

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you are not completely accurate the enterprise center load is actually quite short for such a big ride. It is no longer than 40 or 42 feet at the most.

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To clarify, I stated "with a non-standard length centerload", not that it was overlength. I recall the discussion here previously that because of the shorter length, it requires a special permit in Pennsylvania, and some other states as well. It's all about the weight loading on bridges that the load would have to go over. The shorter length means that the weight is concentrated in a smaller area, which in some cases could be a problem. Hope this helps.[:D]

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Yes Jay, Wade's Enterprise came from Link Shows. Wade got it in 1993. In 1996 the backwall was ripped off during a storm, and the original sign was destroyed, that's why you see a custom sign on it now.

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yes chris i know that its links old one i was around when they bought it [8]

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Yes Jay, Wade's Enterprise came from Link Shows. Wade got it in 1993. In 1996 the backwall was ripped off during a storm, and the original sign was destroyed, that's why you see a custom sign on it now.

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Sorry, I misread your post, I was thinking you were wondering if it was Link's old one. Heh, I still miss the Orion, that one was very cool looking.)

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Sorry, I misread your post, I was thinking you were wondering if it was Link's old one. Heh, I still miss the Orion, that one was very cool looking.)

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Ya got any pics of Orion? I'd like to see that again.

Hey, does anybody know if the main arm of the Enterprise rests deep in the trailer or on top of it? Is it a regular "trailer" or is it just an endless series of fold out framework? Do those back wheels come off? That center trailer is so wacky! I love it!

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Hey, does anybody know if the main arm of the Enterprise rests deep in the trailer or on top of it? Is it a regular "trailer" or is it just an endless series of fold out framework? Do those back wheels come off?

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Still considering building that model, Tamadachi? [:)]

The boom is kinda in the trailer at the front end, and kinda out/above the trailer at the back end. Much easier to show you than to explain it. I have some detail pics I'll send you if your interested. Just PM me if you want them.

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yes there WAS one set of axles that went on the back of the boom that were taken off during operation
yes i have some pic's or the ORION have to find packed up i have
moved 2 times in the last 2 yrs [8]

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Could you put some punctuation in there. I can't make out where each sentance starts.

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the bridge law means that too much weight from front axle on trailer to rear axle on the semi to much weight for the short distance its a heavy load also 3 trailers wades still moves one every week this one was link carnivals old one there is bolts that hold the tubs on the sweeps 4 per tub that require special torque on each bolt plus safty pin in every bolt as well i used to work on the other one that wade used to own before wades sold the old one we had done work on the hydrolic ram replaced seals bearings and the pins that hold it in place that was in 88 and at that time the pin to hold ram in place was 5000.00 each metric tapered pins alot of $$$[8]

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Posted - 10/29/2004 : 12:30:05 AM by karnyman

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you are not completely accurate the enterprise center load is actually quite short for such a big ride. It is no longer than 40 or 42 feet at the most.

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To clarify, I stated "with a non-standard length centerload", not that it was overlength. I recall the discussion here previously that because of the shorter length, it requires a special permit in Pennsylvania, and some other states as well. It's all about the weight loading on bridges that the load would have to go over. The shorter length means that the weight is concentrated in a smaller area, which in some cases could be a problem. Hope this helps.[:D]

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