skydiver77
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Sunday, October 21, 2012 12:19:22 AM
Those Fairs overseas have huge rides, we all know that. Why can't say, a KMG XXL, Flying Circus, Booster, & those other big rides come over here to the states? Are they too big or too heavy to travel over/on the roads here in the states? I asked the guy at the NC State Fair right now how many trailers that Space Roller / Top Scan is, and he said 4! [:0] I rode it Wednesday & it was VERY intense! Awesome ride! I wish there were shows here in the states that carried more big rides like that Top Scan that's at the Fair right now, Huss Top Spin, Flying Circus, etc.. Ben, what happened to your liking the classics better? ha ha, i do, but after i rode that Top Scan, oh man, i couldn't get enough! Wish there was a KMG XXL set up beside it. [:o)]
cloudeleven
Sunday, October 21, 2012 12:37:03 AM
Originally Posted by: skydiver77 

Those Fairs overseas have huge rides, we all know that. Why can't say, a KMG XXL, Flying Circus, Booster, & those other big rides come over here to the states? Are they too big or too heavy to travel over/on the roads here in the states? I asked the guy at the NC State Fair right now how many trailers that Space Roller / Top Scan is, and he said 4! [:0] I rode it Wednesday & it was VERY intense! Awesome ride! I wish there were shows here in the states that carried more big rides like that Top Scan that's at the Fair right now, Huss Top Spin, Flying Circus, etc.. Ben, what happened to your liking the classics better? ha ha, i do, but after i rode that Top Scan, oh man, i couldn't get enough! Wish there was a KMG XXL set up beside it. [:o)]



Me too! I'm actually thinking about taking a trip to Germany, Netherlands and Austria sometime this decade to hit some of their fairs and ride til I drop. [:d] Wanna experience those rides that can't/won't come here, plus the culture, sights, etc.

To answer your question somewhat, it's partly because of the road laws/regulations here as far as weight limits for trucks and how long trucks can be. Someone on here said you can be driving down the autobahn in Germany and see a 100 foot long truck carrying one of those huge rides, while here in America a truck that long isn't allowed. Would probably take 3 or 4 trucks to carry the same ride that 1 truck could carry in Germany.
SideWinder
Sunday, October 21, 2012 12:43:24 AM
Because they are ALL OVERWEIGHT for USA standards and no way ANY owner is going to pay the Over sized Permits needed for travel here....Why do you think Strates Top Spin goes by train?? If you get proper permits it CAN travel the highway....They have to pay $$$$per pound over 80,000LBS
Musher
Sunday, October 21, 2012 12:46:43 AM
Mainly Money! They cost alot and are heavy to move and take multi trailer loads. Todays shows need easy up and down to move on to the next spot. Diesel cost now about $4.00 + a gallon, the staff needed to work on it, some need cranes to put them up. I would like to see some more big stuff come over here but I can say about the KMG Stratosphere it's only 2 trailers but each trailer is 70+ feet long without the Semi tractor hooked up and they do need permits cause it weighs some much to transport it over the roads. Most states let 80,000# travel no problem but when loads get over 100,000# U have to pay. Now some owners have reracked there rides to get the weight down under 100,000# but if you have seen the main load of the Space Roller its one big pice of steel.

But U need a fair that has the space for a big ride and the people riding that ride as well in order to make money to pay all the cost. Staff, transport, insurcene, fuel, trucks, and so on.
sausageseller
Sunday, October 21, 2012 4:09:30 PM
Originally Posted by: Musher 

Mainly Money! They cost alot and are heavy to move and take multi trailer loads. Todays shows need easy up and down to move on to the next spot. Diesel cost now about $4.00 + a gallon, the staff needed to work on it, some need cranes to put them up. I would like to see some more big stuff come over here but I can say about the KMG Stratosphere it's only 2 trailers but each trailer is 70+ feet long without the Semi tractor hooked up and they do need permits cause it weighs some much to transport it over the roads. Most states let 80,000# travel no problem but when loads get over 100,000# U have to pay. Now some owners have reracked there rides to get the weight down under 100,000# but if you have seen the main load of the Space Roller its one big pice of steel.

But U need a fair that has the space for a big ride and the people riding that ride as well in order to make money to pay all the cost. Staff, transport, insurcene, fuel, trucks, and so on.




Over 80, 0000 you need a permit and have to follow the restrictions on said permit. ie. travel time, route, escort ect. . They are all dependent on the state regulations that you are traveling in.

Hit a scale or roadside inspection over 80,000 or over axle weight and you are going to get fined and more than likely shutdown.

But hey don't ask me how I know that... [look]
rideguyray
Sunday, October 21, 2012 8:25:12 PM
Its all about Fuel costs to take multi trailer rides across the USA, Permits on Over Weight and Extra Long trailers
if memory serves me, the Main trailer of Strates Show's Top Spin is around 60 or 70 feet long, and really heavy
i think it needs atleast 3, maybe 4 trailers to move it around
Plus its so heavy that it is only set up at fairs with easy accessibility to rail yards or rail lines
luckily for Gaithersburg,MD the fairgrounds has a rail crossing at the far end, and a road to the midway, so Top Spin was used here
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Bill P
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Sunday, October 21, 2012 11:52:39 PM
Strates Top Spin is on 5 trailers, 6 if you count the crane needed to set it up.
Center
water tanks, doghouse and misc parts
tub/platform
scenery [28']
Generator [32']
flatbed to haul crane

Oh yeah, I forgot the computer container [8x10'] that goes on a special extended tractor.
Erik9976
Monday, October 22, 2012 1:36:16 AM
It's rediculous if you ask me. Government is a pain in the ass. But a necessary evil. Fuel prices are double to triple in Europe. But from I've been told the big multi trailer rides can't travel in Great Britain. Stricter regulations than we have.
SideWinder
Monday, October 22, 2012 8:21:35 PM
Originally Posted by: rideguyray 

Its all about Fuel costs to take multi trailer rides across the USA, Permits on Over Weight and Extra Long trailers
if memory serves me, the Main trailer of Strates Show's Top Spin is around 60 or 70 feet long, and really heavy
i think it needs atleast 3, maybe 4 trailers to move it around
Plus its so heavy that it is only set up at fairs with easy accessibility to rail yards or rail lines
luckily for Gaithersburg,MD the fairgrounds has a rail crossing at the far end, and a road to the midway, so Top Spin was used here



Did you know that those tracks that are on the fairgrounds are actually owned by Strates....
rideguyray
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 12:37:52 AM
sidewinder, I know the siding track on the fairgrounds is owned by strates shows, but i believe CSX owns the actual tracks that they are connected too, its really a shame the current fair board views strates shows playing a spring youth festival/carnival first week of june as a threat to attendance for the august fair, after all its a perfect set up for Strates, even used the top spin here before they were kicked out, real shame
i would love to see strates again, and im sure they would like to be allowed back in gaithersburg or atleast at the mall a block away, not sure if top spin would go up if they set up at the mall in gaithersburg
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rideguyray
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 1:44:13 AM
Hey guys
I was searching youtube and came across this video of the Steiger Riesnrad 60 meters in height set up
shows the true scale of wheels in Europe
i believe this is the largest portable giant wheel any where in the world
enjoy

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Fabbri_Guy
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 2:35:50 AM
Originally Posted by: rideguyray 

Hey guys
I was searching youtube and came across this video of the Steiger Riesnrad 60 meters in height set up
shows the true scale of wheels in Europe
i believe this is the largest portable giant wheel any where in the world
enjoy



I seen that wheel on YouTube a few times. Makes anything look small. That is just humongous!
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