I know we went down this road before but it is apparent it is going to be far worse this time. You can blame this surge in prices on Obama. Here's the proof. In a recent speech he said gas and oil production was at an all time high which is true then added because of his policies, that's a lie and he knows it. Gas and oil production was down on federal lands which controls, private and state lands production is up which he has no control over.

http://www.institutefore...federal-lands-in-fy2011/ 

It was the policies of Clinton and Bush that increased the production. It takes YEARS from the time a permit is issued before a well goes on line.

While Germany regulates their diesel at 50 ppm of sulpher our EPA under Obama has cut that to 15 ppm and is looking at 5 ppm. Refiners are currently at 3 ppm to avoid the heavy fines of cross contamination. That is why diesel is so expensive. It takes many more steps to refine it.

He is paying $10,000 to anyone buying an electric car. According to GM the average income of those buyers is $179,000. Need I mention the A123 battery company he gave millions to that is now belly up or the car company that got millions to build electric cars for us?

Wait there's more. He killed the XL pipeline which not only would have provided thousands of jobs at NO cost to the tax payer but increase the supply of oil. Didn't he once say he wanted higher gas prices but not this fast?

What he doesn't seem to get is this nation depends on trucks an any increase in their costs is passed on to the consumer which in turn kills jobs.

My question is how will it effect our industry? How many shows will go back to the Pot trailers? How many will use gasoline instead of diesel? How many will cut loads? And the big question, how will it effect midway grosses?

Gas in the DFW area is now about $3.58 and diesel over $4.00.

What was it when he took office?

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In Jan '09 gas was $1.85 and Diesel was $2.38

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In Jan '09 gas was $1.85 and Diesel was $2.38

The prices were over 3.00 per gallon until the day he won the election. Then they dropped like a rock within 48 hours, the moment everyone knew Bush was out. Over the period of his administration they have jumped right back up where they were, but Bush did not get them down to 1.85/gal... Anyone who believes that needs to do more investigating. The speculation that came on election day dropped the bottom out of the prices. And they stayed low for quite some time before starting to inch back up.

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On Saturday, ABC of Ft Myers reported that Reithoffer was adding a fuel surcharge to its ticket prices. We linked the article on the home page, however, ABC took the article off their web site. Perhaps Reithoffer did away with the surcharge?

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Found another article from NBC about a possible fuel surcharge at the Ft Myers County fair...

http://www.carnivalwarehouse.com/news-handler.asp?newsurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Emsnbc%2Emsn%2Ecom%2Fid%2F46514744%2Fns%2Flocal%5Fnews%2Dfort%5Fmyers%5Ffl%2Ft%2Fcounty%2Dfair%2Dtickets%2Dinclude%2Dfuel%2Dsurcharge%2F 

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It now appears the XL pipeline is going to be built with out HBO's permission. It was announced just a few minutes ago that Pipeline from OK to the Gulf coast will be built and completed next year. They are using a back door to get it done, one of BHO's tricks.. BHO has no say on what is done state to state. After it starts you can bet the next leg will go from NE to OK. Again no presidential approval. Then its only a few feet to cross the border and get Canadian oil flowing.

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The prices were over 3.00 per gallon until the day he won the election. Then they dropped like a rock within 48 hours, the moment everyone knew Bush was out. Over the period of his administration they have jumped right back up where they were, but Bush did not get them down to 1.85/gal... Anyone who believes that needs to do more investigating. The speculation that came on election day dropped the bottom out of the prices. And they stayed low for quite some time before starting to inch back up.

I didn't make that claim. He asked a question, and I answered it. Obama has no more to do with high pump prices than Bush did.

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I didn't make that claim. He asked a question, and I answered it. Obama has no more to do with high pump prices than Bush did.

Never said you did - was just stating the fact in general --

My thoughts are this -- the high pump prices, while influenced by foreign policy, are really run by the speculation on Wall Street - which is really where the 'rich' control everyone's money. Their ability to drive prices up or down is the real issue. Obama claimed there was going to be regulation on them and the fuel prices, and when he got elected, they dropped like a rock. Now, they've climbed back up where they were, and while he's tried to regulate things, he's gone about regulating the wrong parts of the problem. I don't want to get into an argument about all the politics. It's not worth my time. I'm just tired of watching him get the 'sole' blame for the fuel prices, when the real issue is the lack of regulation on the market activity that drives them. NOAA issues a hurricane warning, the speculators have a field-day and drive the prices up over 'FEAR' of refinery problems and issues in the Gulf. Nothing happens, no damage is caused, but the prices take five times as long to come back down as they did to go up. Obama has nothing to do with that. It's the market. Now our foreign policies can have some effect, with everything in Iran, but lets be real. The stock market speculation is what drives them up. It's all about the fear they can generate.

Personally, I think the news outlets need to be put out of business, and the stock market needs to be brought back under some form of regulation where the buyers and sellers are not the ones who influence and control our entire economy and political parties/officials. Look at all this crap coming out about more damned insider trading...

I'll tell ya - money and who was controlling it is what split this country into it's own nation, and at the rate things are going, it's going to be what destroys us all... Mark my words --

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Obama is not totally to blame but his policies have a lot to do with it. The constant printing of money means you have to use more dollars to buy the same amount of oil. His policies have cause a drop in federal production. Private and state lands have higher production of which he has no control.His EPA has all but killed any chance of new refineries, it is now over 10 years to get permits let alone the 3 to 5 years to build one. The XL pipeline would have caused prices to drop as it would have add millions more barrels to the supply. We use less but China is using more. Start giving out permits to where the oil is and prices will drop close to a buck. Speculators would lose big time. As far as the middle east goes, if we still a big navy just park them around Iran and the Persian Gulf things would settle down quick.

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We have several carrier groups in and near the Persian Gulf

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Let's not forget to blame Obama for Male pattern baldness and McRib only being back for a limited time.

Truth is there is unrest in the middle east (again?) and three refineries on the east coast cannot process low sulfur fuels, so the solution that BP and Hess came up with? Shut em down!

But yeah, let's blame the President-what's he done for us besides save the auto industry, shepherd the Dow back over 13,000, and kill Bin Laden? Lazy guy!

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Let's not forget to blame Obama for Male pattern baldness and McRib only being back for a limited time.

Truth is there is unrest in the middle east (again?) and three refineries on the east coast cannot process low sulfur fuels, so the solution that BP and Hess came up with? Shut em down!

But yeah, let's blame the President-what's he done for us besides save the auto industry, shepherd the Dow back over 13,000, and kill Bin Laden? Lazy guy!

What do the bondholders, not the stockholders, think of the saving of the auto industry? They bought bonds so they would have little risk and they got screwed first.

What did he personally do to get the dow back up?

He killed Bin Laden? Darn, he got back to DC fast after pulling the trigger. How much support has he given our one real friend over there?

I saw him sing on TV last night and thought he was great. I wish he would take up a career in song, or anything besides telling me what I can do with my own money.

Every year, about this time of year, someone, usually the same person, starts the doom and gloom of high fuel prices topic. We can sit on here and pretend what we have to say or who we blame will make a differance in the world. It wont. Theres not a dam thing we can do to make a diff. or change a thing. All we have in our control is how to cope with it, and how to beat the averages.

I agree with just about all of the posts here in some way on this topic.

Here's something to chew on - and my research is incomplete here, so bear with me with what I do know.

He has major push for 'clean' power and less consumption of oil. That's why the heavy regulations everywhere. This was not only him that push for this, but he pushed hard. No matter how much we drill for oil, it's a finite resource. We WILL run out. It's not an if -it's a WHEN. The more we drill and drill and drill to 'feed our supply issues' will not fix the problem in the long run. I have a little girl who is almost a year old and another one who is a teenager. At the rate the world is consuming oil, and the rate that consumption increases, I may be dead by the time we run out, but they most likely will still be alive. I wouldn't wish that nightmare on anyone, let alone my own children... The fact of the matter is while we do have supply issues and speculation issues, the only way we're going to win this fight is to GET OFF our everyday dependance for the oil at the levels we have now.

As for the 'programs and government involvement' in the initiatives, the big thing we see is the incentive programs are ALL FLAWED. There are people making millions on the incentives and lobbying brought on by all this -- and then not producing a product. If you're going to get that much money from the government, then there needs to be much more overseeing what's going on with everything. This is too many times in a row that it seems the books were cooked from the get-go...

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I'm throwin' up a picture someone sent me. I don't want any backlash. I don't want it to start a fight, because I'm not doing it to prove a point... I just thought it was interesting, and the last line made it a little funny...

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