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Saturday, January 28, 2012 6:15:00 PM
I have come to the realization that I need to divide my model show into 2 units, a navy unit and a lime unit (the 2 dominant colors in my logo). There are just a few questions I have regarding this:

- Are they typically even in size, or should one be larger than the other so they can play different sized events?

- Is it realistic to have a couple floater pieces that can travel between the units if one of them needs some extra attractions - for example - I only have one skywheel - thinking about using that as a floater piece so it could join either unit.

- Somethings are easy, for example - I have a scrambler and a sizzler - one goes to each unit - that's easy - but I have one each of a Zipper, Kamikaze, Ring of Fire, Top Spin - My gut just says two go with each, however, I don't know if there are other things I should consider regarding which ones are paired together.

I realize these may sound like trivial questions, but I want to do it in a realistic manner. I'm getting kind of interested in this stuff and am actually thinking about planning out a fake route (or routes) this year.

Thanks so much in advance for your input - there is always so much useful information on this forum.

crazyspin
Saturday, January 28, 2012 6:21:30 PM
Actually I was thinking the same thing.

Haha, I sometimes get a chuckle how much thought some of us modelers put into our shows. Definitely adds to the fun!

I'm sure some of those modelers with some of the bigger shows will be able to chime in and help out.

Skywheelrider
Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:31:39 PM
I don't care what anyone things about this hobby (and believe me there are those that make fun, especially here at MCW) but this is something I have a lot of fun with!

Well, I have a lot of ride models, a lot. I had three model shows, but downsized back to two. I have some rides that still need to be built (mainly as replacements for models I sold in the last few months), but when all said and done I will have one show with 75 pieces, and one with 71 plus one ride I have not placed yet. Both shows are divided into three units each, with the third unit being a smaller unit than the first two. I try to keep the first two units relatively even, within a ride or two, then throw in the smaller third unit. I use 'floater' pieces as well, and try to make sure each unit has certain pieces, then just decide what rides kinda compliment each other or would fit in. This is how my model shows break down (rides to be built yet are noted, but I included them as I have 'assigned' them, so to speak LOL):


Wonderland Shows

Teal Unit (used green color here because cyan does not show up well)

Wonder Wheel (Giant Wheel)
Musik Express
Super Star (lifting Crazy Dance)
Trabant
Sky Flyer (coming)
Tilt-A-Whirl
1001 Nachts
Tip Top
Dodgem (coming)
Zipper
Flashdance (Huss Megadancer)
The Darkness (dark ride)
Monster (Eyerly Monster)
Mardi Gras
Toon Town Theatre
3-Abreast Merry-Go-Round #1
Hampton Boats
Fire Patrol
Apple Worm
Barrels-of-Fun
Circus World Train
Castle Bounce
Space Rockets
Animaniacs Free Fall Tower
Glider (swings)


Magenta Unit

Sky Wheel
ThunderBolt
Aftershock (Remix)
Wave Swinger
T/M Scrambler
Pirate
Fireball (Ring of Fire)
Sky Diver (coming)
Paratrooper
Alien Abduction (Gravitron)
Bumper Cars (coming)
Meteor (Hrubetz)
Surfing (Flying Coaster with backwall scenery)
Alps Haus Fun House
Wacky Shack
3-Abreast Merry-Go-Round #2
Super Slide
Hampton Butterflies
Grand Prix Racing (A.H. Race Cars)
Jumpin' Star
Crazy Tea Party (Zamperla style Tea Cups)
Raceway (track ride, coming)
Butterfly Jets
Bobsleds (Mini Flying Bobs)
Fire Chief (Crazy Bus)


Red Unit

Big Eli 16 Wheel
Flying Bobs
Octopus (16-tub)
Heart Flip
Extazy (Gee Wiz/Miami Trip style ride)
Round Up
Hustler
Swinger
Terminator (Kamikaze)
G/M Scrambler (coming)
Alice In Wonderland Fun House
Scooby Shack
2-Abreast Merry-Go-Round
Inflate Castle with Slide
Hampton Hot Rods
Hampton Combo
Demolition Derby (kiddie bumper cars)
Little Friends (spin ride style ride)
Bulgy-The-Whale
Flying Saucers
Space Tower (Free Fall Tower)
All-American Railroad


All three units have a full compliment of joints and food wagons and ticket boxes.

Floater rides: Rainbow, 8-seat Ferris Wheel, Magic Vision dark ride.


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Frangipani Amusements

Blue Unit

Giant Wheel
Himalaya
Orbiter
Rock It (Huss Tornado)
Spider
Gravitron
Super Shot Drop Tower
Giant Scooter
Zipper
Sea Dragon
Super Swings
Sizzler
Beach Party Fun House
King Circus Fun House
3-Abreast Merry-Go-Round #1
Ice Slide
Hampton Motorcycles
Ships Ahoy (spin ride)
Street Rods
Frog Hopper
Wild West Train
Stunt Pilots (Red Baron)
Fun Wheel (kid wheel)
Rockin' Tubs of Fun
Up Ups (coming)



Red Unit

Sky Wheel
Midnight Express (open top Matterhorn)
Crazy Dance
Adrenalyn (Freak Out)
Tilt-A-Whirl
Black Mamba (8-tub Octopus)
Toboggan
Scooter
Tip Top
Haunted House
Saturn Six
Super Loops
Tomb Raider (A.R.M. High Flyer type with open tubs)
Rock & Roll Fun House
Nemo and Ariel's Under The Sea Glass House
3-Abreast Merry-Go-Round #2
Big Slide
Hampton Combo
Go Gator
Mini-Himalaya
Magic Dragons (Zamperla style Dragon Jets)
Berry-Go-Round (spin ride)
Typhoon Free Fall Tower
Speedway
Crazy Bus


Gold Unit

Eli Hy-5 (12 seat) Wheel
Windsurf (Trabant with backwall)
Tempest
No Limit (Super Sizzler)
Twister (Chance)
Rolloplane
Spinner (High Lite style)
Rock-O-Plane
Cobra
Swinger
Alpine Fun House
2-Abreast Merry-Go-Round
Hampton Hot Wheels
Castle Bounce
Britney's Butterflies (like a King Rocket Ships swing)
Captain Kid's Boats (A.H. Wet Boats)
Tubs-of-Fun
Wild West Riverboats (Venture River)
Tonka Trucks

The Top Spin and Falling Star are 'floater' pieces. All three units have a full compliment of food wagons, joints, and ticket boxes.

I also still have a Sky Wheel from my former third model show, American Eagle Shows, I am not sure where it will go yet, I like it too much to sell it.
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That's how my model shows break down. As I said, I have a lot of fun with it. During the Winter, as I build new pieces, replace older pieces, fix up pieces, etc., I mix units within each show on my layouts, but the rest of the time I keep everything separate. I just enjoy it, it's a relaxing hobby, fun, when you're in the mood for it. That and the idea that you are 'creating' something that is your own, maybe unique color schemes, unique scenery or themes, you get the idea, especially for those of us that cannot afford to own the real thing. So like I said, I don't care what anyone says about the hobby, I enjoy it, same as model car builders enjoy that, model train folks enjoy that, you know what I mean. Everyone should have a hobby of some sort! This is mine (ours)! [happy]

"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first." -- Mark Twain
BeauceCarnavalMan
Monday, January 30, 2012 12:09:16 AM
Originally Posted by: bmkmusic 

I have come to the realization that I need to divide my model show into 2 units, a navy unit and a lime unit (the 2 dominant colors in my logo). There are just a few questions I have regarding this:

- Are they typically even in size, or should one be larger than the other so they can play different sized events?

- Is it realistic to have a couple floater pieces that can travel between the units if one of them needs some extra attractions - for example - I only have one skywheel - thinking about using that as a floater piece so it could join either unit.

- Somethings are easy, for example - I have a scrambler and a sizzler - one goes to each unit - that's easy - but I have one each of a Zipper, Kamikaze, Ring of Fire, Top Spin - My gut just says two go with each, however, I don't know if there are other things I should consider regarding which ones are paired together.

I realize these may sound like trivial questions, but I want to do it in a realistic manner. I'm getting kind of interested in this stuff and am actually thinking about planning out a fake route (or routes) this year.

Thanks so much in advance for your input - there is always so much useful information on this forum.




Just in real life its all up to you what you want to do with your show. You can always change out rides between units just what real shows do all the time.
BeauceCarnavalMan
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Monday, January 30, 2012 1:35:29 AM
Originally Posted by: Skywheelrider 

I don't care what anyone things about this hobby (and believe me there are those that make fun, especially here at MCW) but this is something I have a lot of fun with!

As I said, I have a lot of fun with it. During the Winter, as I build new pieces, replace older pieces, fix up pieces, etc., I mix units within each show on my layouts, but the rest of the time I keep everything separate. I just enjoy it, it's a relaxing hobby, fun, when you're in the mood for it. That and the idea that you are 'creating' something that is your own, maybe unique color schemes, unique scenery or themes, you get the idea, especially for those of us that cannot afford to own the real thing. So like I said, I don't care what anyone says about the hobby, I enjoy it, same as model car builders enjoy that, model train folks enjoy that, you know what I mean. Everyone should have a hobby of some sort! This is mine (ours)! [happy]




Well said Chris. What ever floats your boat and why should anyone feel the need to run that down. I value time to myself in my shop, and being creative.
Rockowheel
Monday, January 30, 2012 2:27:26 AM
I can only echo all of this. I was carnival modelling for many years, even before the emergence of the kits from IHC, Faller, and on.. I can't tell how many times it would get me out of so many emotional "ruts" to immerse myself in my own personal carnival world being as creative as I felt like. There are no rules here, you do what makes you feel good. There is no inferiority to any of it. If your happy and satisfied that's all that matters and you don't have to justify or explain to anyone how or what youre modelling your rides, static or motorized, one unit or ten.
I can remember years back making an imaginary "route" where my show would tour different parts of the house (to the dismay of my mother), which effectively ended when I got a cat (lol).
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Monday, January 30, 2012 3:22:25 AM
Thanks everyone for the info.

I began carnival modeling technically when I was a kid - building rides out of Tinker toys and Knex and making tubs and signs out of cardboard - a merry go round with a paper-plate top and toilet paper roll center - I wasn't modeling in any sort of scale at all - I just liked to build - I've been fascinated with carnival rides as long as I can remember.

After I graduated high school and moved out into the real world and got a job, I discovered that there were actual model kits - so I started building some of those - had a bunch of IHC and Faller ones - and even a couple RAH kits - we're talking 12 years ago at least.

Anyway - I moved to the chicago area for college in the early 2000's and left all of my models in the basement of my childhood home. In 2008, my hometown (Cedar Rapids, IA) suffered a terrible flood and my mom's house flooded - not just the basement, everything but the third level - she lost everything and I lost my whole collection.

A couple summers ago I decided to pick up a model and began again - and what can I say, I immediately transported myself back to my youth and have been working hard at it since. My interest comes and goes in spurts - as with everything - but I have amassed quite a collection in just 2 short years - far surpassed what I used to have. I have bought models both custom and on Ebay from many of the modelers on this site. I have learned so much from all of you - I love seeing the pictures and updates from everyone. I wish I had the talents that some of you have - I can handle the kits, but wouldn't even know where to begin scratch building something.

Anyway - this has turned into far more than a quick reply. Just wanted to say thank you to everyone on here for sharing all of your talents and knowledge. Needless to say, after the flood and coupled with my inability to find employment as a music teacher caused me to spend a couple years in a pretty deep 'funk' (I won't say depression, because I think that takes a way from people who are actually suffering from true depression) - this site and this hobby has helped me come out of that and move passed all of it. Anyway - thank you all!
carnivalkits
Monday, January 30, 2012 4:16:43 AM
My first model was a car on a wire that was attached to a motor from a washing machine timer I think. Anyway I had it rigged to run when you put a penney in the slot (it was a slot in a cardboard box the motor was in the top) wire was wraped around each side of a slot and when you put a penney in it the circuit was made and it would run. Cool stuff for a kid in 6th grade I think. The only problem was that it was 110 volts plugged in to the wall socket... Ha Ha I did not get electrocuted but I could feel the tingle at times. Guess that is why I took electrical engineering. Funny when you think about how we got started in the carnival modeling.

Rich
Skywheelrider
Monday, January 30, 2012 6:48:08 AM
When I was a kid I used all kinds of things to make a toy carnival. I used Tinker Toys, Legos, cardboard, poster board, you name it. I would draw rides on paper and cut them out, attach them to wood blocks and arrange a 'midway.' LOL I even used post cards of rides from amusement parks attached to blocks. I still have an Enterprise I drew-looking down from the top, the sweeps and tubs, which I had cut so I could fold them down into a 'loading' position, and I could attach it to a center and manually spin it. Good times....LOL

One summer a company came out with candy mints in square plastic boxes that had Lego-type holes and raised spots on the outside; I stacked a few together, then drew two Sky Wheel towers and attached them to one side of a stack of boxes, attached the stacks to a Lego board (yep, they fit together), put two trailers with half-trailer boxes on them behind each tower, then on posterboard drew each wheel with rim rails and seats,, the bull wheel/boom/truss rods, used push pins to attach the wheels to the boom, then attached them to one 'tower' with a large push pin, and I had a moving Sky Wheel! LOL I was eleven/twelve years old at the time, but I thought it was cool as heck. LOL Started into real model building when Faller came out with their first Giant Wheel then IHC came out with kits, then down the road I discovered RAH, Warren Renauld, and it's gone on from there. When I am all said and done this Winter I will be at around 145/146 ride models. A far cry from the Lego/paper/poster board/cardboard/Tinker Toy days! LOL

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LB Shows Mini Midway
Monday, January 30, 2012 2:26:34 PM
I don't know if this is "realistic" or not, but I have three units. Since the "LB" in LB Shows is my wife's initials, I decided when I needed to break my show down to name each one after my three kids (may as well get the whole fam involved), the largest being named after my oldest, and so on.

The Jack Unit: the largest with about 48-50 rides. That's my "larger fair" unit.
The Michael Unit: the county fair sized unit with about 26 rides.
The Katie Unit: Small still date unit with about 12 rides.

Of course, they get combined sometimes if I do a model show. I've been trying to eliminate as many duplicates lately as I can, hence the recent ebay offerings. Instead, I am going for same ride, different theme. For example, one unit may have a Casino and the other have a Trabant. One unit may have a Gravitron, the other a Starship.

Now onto the reminiscing...

I know this is veering off topic, but you all have got me thinking about my childhood memories at my parents' house.

As far back as I can remember, I guess I built carnival "models". Back then I had a show that I "traveled" all over the house with. I can still remember a lot of what it consisted of:

-Super Loops: Tyco slot car race track, just the loop, with a Fisher Price car.

-A Force 10: made from Construtx toys.

-A Fisher Price Merry Go Round.

-Ferris Wheel and Rocket Ride from some Disney train set we had.

-Bumper Cars: A small flipped-upside-down storage box with several one seat Fisher Price cars inside

-Spider: A Fisher Price Playground Merry Go Round propped up on something.

I seem to remember at one time or another also having a spinning top that was rigged into a Gravitron, a Tilt a Whirl made from a Fisher Price record and half Easter egg shells, a Sea Dragon built from cardboard (seriously).

Ah, the good ole days. Wish I had some photos of that.
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Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:28:31 AM
I guess we could call Skywheelrider the "NAME" of the carnival model world. NAME runs 6 or 7 units, don't they?

First carnival model I ever saw was a Roll-o-plane made from a ruler with two "D" Cell batteries taped to the ends.
Skywheelrider
Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:51:44 AM
Originally Posted by: Bill P 

I guess we could call Skywheelrider the "NAME" of the carnival model world. NAME runs 6 or 7 units, don't they?

First carnival model I ever saw was a Roll-o-plane made from a ruler with two "D" Cell batteries taped to the ends.



N.A.M.E.? Nah, not quite! LOL I think they run seven, maybe eight? John I wish I had some photos, too from back then. I can picture it in my head, but it's not the same. LOL I should take a photo of that Enterprise I mentioned above; no backwall or platform, just the sweeps/tubs, but still looks alright after all almost thirty years.

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