Predatorocks
Tuesday, March 6, 2007 11:26:15 AM
Does this ride the same as the Wipeout? It looks like it does the same stuff, but does it ride the same. Is it faster, or slower. Does it still go backwards. I consider the Wipeout an airtime ride, and a Himilaya ride at the same time. Is the Trabant close with airtime, and speed as the Wipeout?
JustinJames
Tuesday, March 6, 2007 12:10:33 PM
Wipeout was said to be faster but the rpm ratings did not dictate that at all. The main thing about a wipeout was the seating arrangement and flash/scenery. The idea that the seats faced each other essentially meant that four people felt as though they could ride together as opposed to one behind the other seating. The Trabant was rim drive on the rim, the Wipeout is hydraulic gear driven on both rim and turret.

My biggest complaint about the wipeout was that the doghouse and ESPECIALLY if it has the whole from sign that it blocks the ride from the midway. I never appreciated that. I felt it affected ridership in some ways.

Trabant Rim 22rpm Turret 11rpm

Wipeout Rim 20rpm Turret 10rpm



Small Timer
Tuesday, March 6, 2007 12:21:41 PM
shamrock in ny has a nice trabant.gets pretty good money, full loads all the time. and not just pop. they keep it clean too. sometimes he even puts it next to the tip top they both look nice together.
Boldy moving foward. Because we cant get it in reverse
punkboysa18
Tuesday, March 6, 2007 3:14:25 PM
The trabant is way more intense in my opinion... I rode one in Albuquerque, really nice one last year. Moores. It would start off with the rim and turret spinning in the same direction, I thought my fatass was gonna fly out. FUN![8D]
Flying Coaster
Tuesday, March 6, 2007 3:17:27 PM
I always prefered the Trabant as well. The Casino themed ones were sharp as well.
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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 8:47:38 PM
I always liked the light show on the Trabant. The point in the center must be a pain as many removed it but I still think it looks good. I agree with you Justin about the doghouse & that oversized sign blocking the Wipeout.
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unclewallyjr
Tuesday, March 6, 2007 9:03:15 PM
I'm not sure about this but I've heard that the Trabant is what got Harold Chance into the portable ride business. It was based on a ride called the Hully-Gully. A European version which loaded on two or three trailers, had a back wall, and took a sizable crew to move. AofA moved one for many years until it was no longer cost effective. The original Chance version reguired building a base off of the center trailer and adding floor sections for the deck. Later Chance designed the now much used folding platform type we see on many European and American rides today. I've also heard that Carl Sedlmayr Sr. , founder of the Royal American Shows , commissioned Harold Chance to build the first Trabant. I won't be offended if someone corrects me on this.
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Tuesday, March 6, 2007 9:29:19 PM
I figured the main difference in the traditional Trabant & AofA's Hully Gully was that the Hully Gully was a spectacular. What a beautiful piece.
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Keith
Tuesday, March 6, 2007 10:46:52 PM
C. J. Sedlmayr could well have commissioned Chance to build the first US version but a ride from this manufacturer may not have been the first carried on Royal.

Kenny’s RAS album shows the first Trabant carried by the show.
http://news.webshots.com...857116290054427442PsGzyn 
As I understand this Trabant was a German import, although I would have to check some rail show history in Carnival Magazine to confirm.

Euro version imported by Morgan Hughes
http://members.shaw.ca/carn/Scb.jpg 
JustinJames
Wednesday, March 7, 2007 6:27:19 AM
Wasn't the Hully Gully a Mack piece??? If I'm wrong correct me. I'm curious.

Cedar Point had one called the Swambinchen
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Wednesday, March 7, 2007 8:27:53 AM
I am pretty sure it was a Mack piece.
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Wednesday, March 7, 2007 9:01:04 AM
The Trabant was built in Germany in the early 1960's. Carl Sedlmayr,Jr. purchased it and the patents, letting Chance build them. The Europeans continued to build them with Mack building the Hully Gully (a trabant with scenery and more flash). In the early 70's, Chance changed the ride again, adding the folding sides and theming some as Casinos. In the late 80's they came up with the Wipeout, changing the rim drive to hydraulic, and re-designing it completely.
JustinJames
Wednesday, March 7, 2007 9:05:05 AM
I've always like the racking on the Wipeout. But I never liked all the PLC's that made the ride cycle operate. Now a days I have seldom seen a Wipeout that runs the cycle correctly. The Plc's get out of synce and you get nothing of a good ride. I know Wade's hasn't ran correctly since about 2001 or so. Pugh's was a disaster too after about 1998 or so. Crown's ran right for the most part but acted up a LOT (e.i. no brakes no down boom ect ect)
2ndgencarnie
Wednesday, March 7, 2007 10:05:27 AM
There is a million ways to rack a trabant, i think it depends on how it is done, but i really like a trabant over a wipeout. Im not a big fan of back walls. That is my main problem with the wipe-out,
JustinJames
Wednesday, March 7, 2007 11:36:42 AM
I could see your point. The Trabant is a nice center or outside lineup piece. The Wipeout isn't due to the backwall. I can see that reasoning.
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