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The Moser Energy Rush currently travels on the fair circuit in the Czech Republic
No no, although the Hoppla is fantastic (it runs like a topspin) I got to ride the one at Pratter twice back in 2004 :D

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Mirabilandia in Italy had one for a while but its since been removed.
Originally Posted by: CanobieFan 

I don't think it "can't" I think it has more to do with safety or rider comfort. Even with the low swings and free swinging cars... You can get some pretty fast/rough/violent rocking motions. So I kinda assumed that's why they don't have the seats unlocked doing the 360. Although there is video on YouTube showing there kmg ride doing 360s unlocked but its riderless. I believe someone here when the ride first came out said something along the lines of KMG suggesting against doing it because of the forces.

But it should be noted Moser makes a ride somewhat like both the inversion and loop fighter that does have free spinning cars and makes 360s just fine.



You mean the Hoppla?
Originally Posted by: Tornado 

Never rode or seem the KMG Inversion in person, but from all the videos I’ve watch of it I’ve never seen one that showed the seats swinging free or flipping while it was doing it 360 degree revolutions over the top? Not that it can’t… It would be cool if it could as it would add a whole different dimension to the ride…

For that matter why can’t the stinger have the cars swing free while it’s going over the top? Something to do with balance of the ride?

Why can the Inversion do it if the stinger can’t?

Stinger does hold 4 more riders though…



I was told it was because of excessive G-Forces.
I don't think it "can't" I think it has more to do with safety or rider comfort. Even with the low swings and free swinging cars... You can get some pretty fast/rough/violent rocking motions. So I kinda assumed that's why they don't have the seats unlocked doing the 360. Although there is video on YouTube showing there kmg ride doing 360s unlocked but its riderless. I believe someone here when the ride first came out said something along the lines of KMG suggesting against doing it because of the forces.

But it should be noted Moser makes a ride somewhat like both the inversion and loop fighter that does have free spinning cars and makes 360s just fine.


Never rode or seem the KMG Inversion in person, but from all the videos I’ve watch of it I’ve never seen one that showed the seats swinging free or flipping while it was doing it 360 degree revolutions over the top? Not that it can’t… It would be cool if it could as it would add a whole different dimension to the ride…

For that matter why can’t the stinger have the cars swing free while it’s going over the top? Something to do with balance of the ride?

Why can the Inversion do it if the stinger can’t?

Stinger does hold 4 more riders though…
Originally Posted by: Fabbri_Guy 

OK so the question is... what's better this or a kmg inversion, sorry to change the subject a little



I'm neutral. Both are equally matched. The only exception that I've seen is the KMG Inversion can flip it's passengers at any time, where as the Loop Fighter can only perform gondola flips while rocking back and forth like a pendulum.
Originally Posted by: rideguyray 

I saw that Stinger last fall in Frederick, MD
it was running full cycles, and i think it had about 40+ people in line for it
oh thats insane just watching it, also had half the lights out they were trying to get them to work correct



I was told someone left the controller for the lights in the rain and they shorted out.
Originally Posted by: boltz 

Well, As far as the cycle it depends on when you rode it. They run different cycles depending on the crowd. This also applies to how many seats they operate.

They had a few new guys on the ride in Tampa so that could have had something to do with it. As far as them being rude, You should have found the boss because he doesn't play games with the help and wouldn't approve of that stuff. It has 4 programs and they are all different.



The Stinger actually has 3 programs. If they are running a large crowd, they disable Phase 3 (meaning the seats remained locked and after looping, the ride ends), if they are running a small crowd, they disable gondolas 2 and 4 and only load 8. I got to film them operating the ride and will be posting a promo video for the Stinger soon (footage on, off the ride and from a helicopter above the ride, that was fun, and tearing down the ride at the end of the Florida State Fair) Jeff Alberts is the foreman of the ride from what I understand, nice guy, he lets me ride for free at any fair they go to now, if you have trouble with any of the operators, tell Jeff, he'll straighten things out. As for riding, I once rode 23 times in a row at the Lee County Fair in Lee County, FL, it's a different thrill every run. Great ride.
OK so the question is... what's better this or a kmg inversion, sorry to change the subject a little