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well here i go been off this posting stuff for months but cannot hold back now.
the world did not end the bum got reelected what ya gonig to do about it? lace up your boots grab your lunch pale and go to work. look at the oppurtunities because the other people who don't want to work. the stay at home guy, that means you have more work. this country was built on work do it. learn to move that super spectatular, fix up your joint bury more stew. they can only get what you tell them you have. sam's club rest. depot costco they all help you. the same time they are able to kill your taxeds. do a better job at your job.


what the ????
Originally Posted by: flamo 



I read the ACA and spent 18 months finding out why HC costs are so high. It boils down to twoo basic things. Cost shifting....If I don't pay you do = Nothing is free. Obamacare does nothing to address that issue in reality it makes it worse. Too many people abuse the system and pay nothing into it. That is the problem. How much do you think illegals cost us in HC every year? Who pays it? Now it will be compounded with amnesty and no conditions.

That will short the expendable income for our patrons.

Here is class example of excessive regulation. A back ground check done last week in town A is not valid in Town B this week.



Well damnit, how do we argue with somebody who actually reads and understands things?

I do want to say that your last example is classic-but we've always had it. No reciprocity. How come your rides are good enough to run in Kentucky but have to be re-inspected to run in Indiana? Why is it safe to eat at my place when I'm set up in Iowa, but the beyotch in Texas wants to cluck her tongue and give me grief (while dinging me another C-note?)

Don't anybody ever think I believe that the President is the savior-no matter who is in office, the chickens will come home to roost, and until it's boom times again (and none of us care because we're all flush) we'll all be feeling the pinch.


For one dollar I'll guess your weight, your height, or your sex.
Originally Posted by: FriedPhil 

Goldman-Sachs doesn't want regulation, they're fighting it. That's why Wall Street investment firms wanted Romney to win, so the Republicans would get rid of the Frank-Dodd act that regulates Wall Street brokers and banks.

Regarding the statement they "back regulations that hurt most of their industry", Wal-Mart and GE are in different industries completely, as is Goldman-Sachs. I'm afraid I don't know what you're talking about. GE is a manufacturer, Wal-Mart is not. Wal-mart is a retailer. Goldman-Sachs is an investment house.

What are these regulations you say they are backing?



You didn't listen to Romney. He said in many speeches we need regulation but not regulation that ones that work. Part of Dodd Frank requires banks to have so much liquidity and borrowers have to meet a certain standard. Now they claim money is to tight. That's what happens when you over regulate.

I read the ACA and spent 18 months finding out why HC costs are so high. It boils down to twoo basic things. Cost shifting....If I don't pay you do = Nothing is free. Obamacare does nothing to address that issue in reality it makes it worse. Too many people abuse the system and pay nothing into it. That is the problem. How much do you think illegals cost us in HC every year? Who pays it? Now it will be compounded with amnesty and no conditions.

That will short the expendable income for our patrons.

Here is class example of excessive regulation. A back ground check done last week in town A is not valid in Town B this week.


I'm there, Old, Tired, Broke and Henpecked
Originally Posted by: FriedPhil 

Goldman-Sachs doesn't want regulation, they're fighting it. That's why Wall Street investment firms wanted Romney to win, so the Republicans would get rid of the Frank-Dodd act that regulates Wall Street brokers and banks.

Regarding the statement they "back regulations that hurt most of their industry", Wal-Mart and GE are in different industries completely, as is Goldman-Sachs. I'm afraid I don't know what you're talking about. GE is a manufacturer, Wal-Mart is not. Wal-mart is a retailer. Goldman-Sachs is an investment house.

What are these regulations you say they are backing?



You didn't listen to Romney. He said in many speeches we need regulation but not regulation that ones that work. Part of Dodd Frank requires banks to have so much liquidity and borrowers have to meet a certain standard. Now they claim money is to tight. That's what happens when you over regulate.

I read the ACA and spent 18 months finding out why HC costs are so high. It boils down to twoo basic things. Cost shifting....If I don't pay you do = Nothing is free. Obamacare does nothing to address that issue in reality it makes it worse. Too many people abuse the system and pay nothing into it. That is the problem. How much do you think illegals cost us in HC every year? Who pays it? Now it will be compounded with amnesty and no conditions.

That will short the expendable income for our patrons.

Here is class example of excessive regulation. A back ground check done last week in town A is not valid in Town B this week.


I'm there, Old, Tired, Broke and Henpecked
Originally Posted by: FriedPhil 

Goldman-Sachs doesn't want regulation, they're fighting it. That's why Wall Street investment firms wanted Romney to win, so the Republicans would get rid of the Frank-Dodd act that regulates Wall Street brokers and banks.

Regarding the statement they "back regulations that hurt most of their industry", Wal-Mart and GE are in different industries completely, as is Goldman-Sachs. I'm afraid I don't know what you're talking about. GE is a manufacturer, Wal-Mart is not. Wal-mart is a retailer. Goldman-Sachs is an investment house.

What are these regulations you say they are backing?




Yes, I'm aware they are parts of different industries. They're called examples.

Fighting is just for show. Nearly every administration has been full of GS employees, including Treasury Secretary. They write all the banking laws, both regulations and de-regulations. Dodd Frank was supposed to hurt banks, and it does hurt the small ones, but it was written by lobbyists for GS, Morgan Stanley, JP Morgan, and other "too big to fail" banks.

GE lobbied for the end of incandescent light bulbs, and for the Cap and Scam crap. Those are things that will hurt the industry, and kill the small ones who can't afford to change.

WalMart, lobbied for Obamacare and has been giving money to Obama and the DNC, despite being life long Republicans. They'll also benefit greatly from Dodd Frank.

Quote:

Did you actually think you would have good health insurance given to you by the carnivals out of the goodness of their hearts?

Could you even afford ANY kind of health insurance on carnival pay?



I don't know about anyone else, but I never wanted insurance when I was out there. I was an agent, but I could have afforded to buy it on my own, had I any use for it. Even now as I got old and start dying, I still don't want it, but if I show enough income to rise above the poverty level, I'm going to be forced to blow a significant chunk of change on something I neither need nor want.

Every crowd has a silver lining - PT Barnum
I keep a bottle of aspirin, a couple of band-aids, and ice in the joint.

Health care is for wimps and sissies.


For one dollar I'll guess your weight, your height, or your sex.
The show I worked for did not offer health care, that is true.

However, if anyone ever got hurt on the show, then the show owner always took care of them and the bill.

I know we need some changes to the system, but bamacare is not the answer, its going to bankrupt our country and personally I do believe one day the government is going to be in our private business about what we eat, if we work out, and so on. Thats not their business.
I will correct myself, there are some hard working young people out there, I shouldn't have made it sound like all are lazy, but I will say that I do not see the work ethic in a lot of young people today, that I did years ago....and I am not terrible old.

I will stick by by my belief that socialism is not an American value because it rewards some people who are lazy, or expect a lot for nothing. I am not saying don't help those that need it, but now a days a lot of people in this country has the idea the government (or someone) owes them something.

Bamacare can still be stopped, but it will take American's that know its not the right thing to stand up and refuse to go along with it, its been done before. You take a look at any government plan and tell me its not broke, or poorly run.

But, I still consider all show folk family, as we all should in this business, so I will shut up about this subject at least on here.

Carnies are hardworking people, no doubt about it, and we are optimistic folks (or why would people hit the road each year), and yeah we can get through it.
Originally Posted by: FriedPhil 

Please name the businesses asking for more regulation.

Is North American Midway Entertainment Co. requesting more regulation so they can have a bigger share of the market and lose money?



I don't know of any carnivals who have done so. I said that's "generally" how things work. They usually help the biggest, and hurt the smallest. That's why companies like GE, WalMart, Goldman Sacs...etc back regulations that hurt most of their industry .

Every crowd has a silver lining - PT Barnum
if we all take this election as doom and gloom we might as well lock our doors and not come out for the next few years. certainly not the candidate I supported but it is what it is. at least the house is still controlled by the republicans which will require some give and take situations. this country weathered thru the great depression and we will get thru this also. reading some history the same issues are plagueing the industry as it was thru history. labor, insurance, fuel cost, DOT regs, etc. this might actually be good for the industry as people will continue to stay close to home and spend their money locally as they will not take the mega trips to the big parks. look at NASCAR if you want to see declines. they have priced themselves out of the market catering to the big corporations and not the fans. the carnival industry has not done that. still a resonable value for the dollar.