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A very lucrative career and the expense of this country's integrity...
Originally Posted by: Bowler Roller 

Our Founders didn't even imagine the people would elect our Senators. Back then they were appointed by that States legislature.



And the idea for Congress was to be part time, not a career, it was understood at the time that every congressman had a regular 'job,' so to speak (farmer, blacksmith, cooper, miller, tavern owner, printer, doctor, minister, teacher, etc.). They were to meet maybe once or twice a year, carry out government business, and then go back to their daily lives. Appointed by state legislatures, it was not to be a career, as it has become for some today.

"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first." -- Mark Twain
Originally Posted by: Bowler Roller 

Our Founders didn't even imagine the people would elect our Senators. Back then they were appointed by that States legislature.


[drinking4 Our founder never imagined the people that would be elected to our state legislatures, either.[drinking4
Our Founders didn't even imagine the people would elect our Senators. Back then they were appointed by that States legislature.

Every crowd has a silver lining - PT Barnum
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I think more of it as a boat with the Republicans on the right side and the Democrats on the left side both paddling like crazy. However, because they are not working together, the boat just sits in the water spinning in circles as it gets closer to the edge. Maybe if they just worked together and try paddling upstream, they could start fixing the issues.



Let's face it, there is NO MONEY in working together. The whole system sucks and I've never met a broke politician unless he/she is in jail! EVEN THEN! - when they do get out of jail/prison, they still have a stash somewhere.

Things will only change when we set term limits for all elected positions. I don't really think that our forefathers imagined that a senator, for instance, would hold office for 20+ years! BOTH SIDES are guilty.
I personally feel that 2 years for a Congressman is a joke as well. They spend more time fundraising and trying to get reelected than they do really trying to "make a difference".
Geewizz66
Originally Posted by: Skywheelrider 

If the voters in this country are smart, they will NOT re-elect the current administration. And I think they are much smarter than they were in 2008 when many allowed the wool to be pulled over their eyes.



Voter's are pretty stupid. Look what they did in 2004 and the last 10 years.



Originally Posted by: Skywheelrider 

As for the current administration in Washington, you see, it's like this....you're the United States, in a barrel, on the brink of going over Niagara Falls; there is a group trying to rescue you (Republicans/conservatives), while another group (Dems/liberals/Obama) are hollering "It's only water! You'll be fine!" and they try and push you over; if the current administration is re-elected, you will go over the brink....



I think more of it as a boat with the Republicans on the right side and the Democrats on the left side both paddling like crazy. However, because they are not working together, the boat just sits in the water spinning in circles as it gets closer to the edge. Maybe if they just worked together and try paddling upstream, they could start fixing the issues.

It is what you learn, after you know it all, that counts.
I know you have no choice. I'm not faulting you. I'm faulting people who cause public hysteria,and use it to erode our rights while failing to give us the promised security.

I'm not the kind of person who blames a group of people for the actions of an individual. It's wrong to hold all black people guilty for the actions of one thug, and it's wrong to blame a company for the actions of a single employee. However, I understand that I am in the minority. It's much more profitable to blame the deepest pockets.
Every crowd has a silver lining - PT Barnum
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Surprise surprise, the background and drug tests did you absolutely no good. I'm curious, do background checks check databases in Mexico or other foreign countries?



The Agency that we use has a counter part in Mexico and they run whatever checks they can run down there. The applicants are screened there and when they apply for their Visas by Homeland Security and the Dept of Labor. We drug test them the minute they show up and then randomly throughout the season or if we see a need to do so. Over the past six or seven years we've had a few stinkers. We send them back and reup in a couple of days.

As far as claiming that the drug tests and background checks did Skywheelrider no good. We still have to perform them to appease the committees and municipalities that allow us to have the carnival. WE HAVE NO CHOICE. Now, if for some reason the information is not accurate, we still have proof that we did our very best. Put yourself in a customers shoes. You have YOUR child at the carnival and the ride operator touches him/her in appropriately. Are you going to be more upset that the company didn't bother to even check this person's background before hiring them? I wouldn't be able to look a parent in the face if we didn't at least try to protect their children from child pretators. Not to mention that my children are on the road in the Summer time!


Geewizz66
Originally Posted by: Skywheelrider 

Two seasons ago, right before we left WQ to head out for the season, one of the drivers for the show said he had a friend in Florida who was looking for a job and willing to come up here to work, and that he (the driver) would pay for the bus ticket. He claimed someone told him it was okay, and got the guy up here. Well, I ran a background check on the guy, and it was three or four pages long. Theft, embezzlement, bad checks, but no drugs, assault(s), or anything that would have put him on the sex offender list. Well, I had to bring it to the owners attention, and the answer at first was no way, send him home. But the guy pleaded and said 'look, I have been out of jail for three years, haven't been convicted of anything in almost five years, I have turned my life around, all I ask is for a chance.' So, he was given one. Turned out to be a great guy, set up and tore down and ran rides, did carpentry work on the bunkhouses and other repairs, made sure the water was hooked up for the show each week and picked up each week after teardown, was friendly, always willing to give a helping hand. Everyone was glad he was allowed to stay.

THEN, it happened. One day he disappeared, for two days. So did his driver buddy. When they showed back up, the driver said he had went to a friends house and his kidney stones acted up, so he stayed, and second chance guy stayed with him. We thought something was up, but even with a drug test we could not prove it. A month later, same thing happened, and this time, they admitted it....they were off doing crack. We were like WTF? We give the guy a second (and really, even a third) chance to work and keep his life on track, and this is what he does? Needless to say, he was let go. You just can't have guys doing that stuff. Who knows if maybe they do it right before the show opens then go operate a ride, or drive a load. You can't have those folks around, even if, as the case was with this guy, they are nice, friendly, and hard working. A shame, really.


We had another guy come up and want to work, get hired, clean background check, passes a drug test, everything looks good, then he says, "I can be paid off the books, right? I am on disability for my back, and can't make over a certain amount each month or they cut off my disability." WTF? You're on disability for a bad back, and you want to work at a carnival? Either you're a fool, stupid, or you lied and got doctors to lie to get disability. He was told 'no, you're on the books, taxes, SS, all of that.' So he said no thanks and left. Really?

We have had guys come up to the office saying they were looking for work, and when asked questions, say 'look, I don't really want the job, but I have to show I am looking for work. Can I fill out an application or get a note of some sort showing I was here looking for a job?' Again, really?

It's like for every two or three good American workers we got, that worked hard, did what was asked of them, didn't cause trouble, and valued their job, there were nine or ten others that were just the opposite.



Surprise surprise, the background and drug tests did you absolutely no good. I'm curious, do background checks check databases in Mexico or other foreign countries?

Every crowd has a silver lining - PT Barnum
Originally Posted by: Skywheelrider 

If the voters in this country are smart, they will NOT re-elect the current administration. And I think they are much smarter than they were in 2008 when many allowed the wool to be pulled over their eyes.


LOL! I got twenty..........


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