Post a reply
Message:
Security Image:
 Last 10 Posts (In reverse order)
Quote:

Who pays for your health care?



Patients.
Every crowd has a silver lining - PT Barnum
My issue is not with public benefits per se, however the manner in which they are distributed and the qualifications used to determine who is eligable.

I have worked my whole life and with the exception of a couple of short term injuries and a three months of unemployment when I was 22 I have never collected any public money, although I have paid in plenty. I persoanlly have no problem helping AMERICANS who need short term help until they get on their feet. My mother lost her job and became disabled in 1980 after working for 40 years. I remember going with her to the welfare office in central Maryland and watching them actually hand cash to people who did not speak English and who had large stones in their forehead or wearing loads of gold bracelets.

If you are an American and you fall on hard times I am happy to help as long as you are willing to make every effort to pull yourself up and get back in the game. If you are American and you become ill or injured and can't work then I am happy to help you. Ifyou are a Veteran then I have no problem helping you (I think all vets should have the best medical and have it free, if you are willing to risk your life for this nation then I am willing to pay you foreever!!). If you have paid into social security then the money is yours. If you have apid into unemployment and you are trying to get back to work then more power to you.

However...

If you are not an American citizen and you are not working then taking care you is not my job, go back home!!! If you have demons (drugs, alcohol, etc.) I am willing to help you once (every deserves a second chance) but after that you are on your own. If you are part of the "Welfare generation" who just lives on welfare then you need to hit the streets (after sterialization).

I agree with the poster abgout charity, but charity is voluntary. I help a great deal of causes, some domestic and many international, but that is my choice. Money that I pay to the American government should be reserved for AMERICANS!!!!!!!

I am prepared for the faming I am sure to recieve.

::::climbing down off of soap box::::

Godspeed.
Clarke

Jacta alea est - "The Die is Cast"
Originally Posted by: Pinetar 




Skywwheeeeeeeerider, did you open your window and ventilate when you were painting your models? Your comments here are unbelievable.

People have respect for the likes of Mother Theresa, but you seem to hold bernie madoff in high esteem. His riches have vanished, can you start a raffle in his honor? Maybe start a still date with just every licensed and insured Skywheel on the planet to raise funds for the rich, after all, they are needy and greedy.

Can u imagine the thousands that would attend, standing around, drooling, taking pics with their walmart specials and larry cell phones. Fans don't necessary have much jingle in their jeans so u need to be creative with other fund raising elements. A G-top for sure with free sweetened ice tea.

Isn't it great to be a peasant?

Did you take your medicine today? Your comments here are incoherent and unbelievable. I know it's hard for a blunt instrument like you to comprehend any thought that goes against the views of the left, you, and your king BHO. You offer no solutions of your own to our nations problems, while criticizing others for their views, and simply say we should all keep quiet and fall in line like sheep being led to the slaughter....[wacko]
"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first." -- Mark Twain
Originally Posted by: Skywheelrider 

http://www.investors.com/NewsAn...65496&obref=outbrain 

So, thirty five percent of Americans are getting some sort of money from the government. That's up from twenty one percent in 2000 and ten percent in 1960. That's 1/3 of the nation!

For all of you that think this is just fine, that 'spreading the wealth,' using the Robin Hood principle of taking from so-called 'rich' to give to those that don't have as much, or basically 'from each according to his ability to each according to his needs,' read the book Atlas Shrugged. I am about 2/3 of the way through it, and if this is what you want (like liberal progressives do), read the book, and what happens in the book, that's eventually the result you will get. Keep taking from the 'rich' and after awhile there will not be any 'rich' to take from, and no one will work according their ability, only enough to have their 'needs' taken care of by someone else.

You should earn what you get, and be able to keep what you earn.



Indiana, I know u r loaded, and ther are so many rich here on mcw. isn't it great that someone is speaking up for them.

The army only authorizes two sheets of toilet tissue a day. if the program was socialized, obesity would end. Arlo Guthrie said " eat more, sheeizit more".
The American people are unable to end obesity on their own or stop smoking. Most humans have some low iq's and need to have their hand held.

Big guberment needs to be Mother.

Most people are more concerned about feeding the poor, the hungry kids. I have never seen anyone campaign for keeping the rich, rich.

Skywwheeeeeeeerider, did you open your window and ventilate when you were painting your models? Your comments here are unbelievable.

People have respect for the likes of Mother Theresa, but you seem to hold bernie madoff in high esteem. His riches have vanished, can you start a raffle in his honor? Maybe start a still date with just every licensed and insured Skywheel on the planet to raise funds for the rich, after all, they are needy and greedy.

Can u imagine the thousands that would attend, standing around, drooling, taking pics with their walmart specials and larry cell phones. Fans don't necessary have much jingle in their jeans so u need to be creative with other fund raising elements. A G-top for sure with free sweetened ice tea.

Isn't it great to be a peasant?

UserPostedImage
The VA has rules that keep changing. If you have a military connected disability, the VA will pay for it and also give you traveling expenses.

Other wise you are given a "means test", your ability to pay your own way depending on your income. Under $32k and you ride for free. You can lie with no penalty when found out or you can do a reasonable co-pay, as I do.

I believe I saw that middle eastern vets with no injuries only get 2 years of free coverage. VA bennies are good when you really need them. But at age 62, medicare becomes your primary insurance and the va does not bill the US gub'ment. So you might have to do a co-pay to medicare. When your combined income jumps up, your medicare fee increases and you are penciled and docked more from your SS check.

UserPostedImage
I don't care about any of my fellow men who don't care for themselves. If they care about themselves they won't be on welfare for long in most cases.

If I decide to help somebody I want to do it directly, not at the point of the government gun.
Pinetar: I agree with you about the obesity thing, up to a point anyway. No need to shoot them, just take away their pork chops[:)] .

Soda Guy: Spot on! To want to shame people seems very petty to me and does not work imho. If you shame all then you run the risk of shaming people who DO ACTUALLY need some help at the moment. The ones abusing the system HAVE no shame so to shame all would be penalizing the innocent to make yourself feel good.

johnroach100: Well at least you don't begrudge me my V.A. benefits. As for the biblical thing..... well, I did quote the King James version which seems to be the favorite edition for our more conservative friends. I feel that I should thank you for pointing out that you can use the bible to bolster any point you want. Not a very good way to base your life on , huh? BUT, if you do base your life on "the word of god" then you should at least try to keep its tenets imho. Nowhere btw have I found in that book a scripture saying "every man for himself". (I could be wrong about that..... havent re-read it in about 6 months)
Anyway the point I was trying to make with that quote was the dichotomy between professing to be a godly person and the reality of not caring for your fellow man.
An end, even with terror, is better than terror without end. F.Neitzsche
Yes, the debit card system did lower costs. I agree with that part. I don't know about the fraud part, maybe it made it harder to hide is all.

I do remember reading in the paper about how it was to avoid the stigma of getting food stamps. I stand by my opinion of let the world know. It won't stop everybody, but there are still a few people in the world who want to earn their own way. And as as far as the shame part, what can it hurt? They're accepting charity, own up to it.





John

One of the reasons that States went to the credit card system was to lower administative costs (this actually worked) and more money was actually getting to people. Also it helped cut down on the fraud, it didn't eliminate it, but it did reduce it.

As for shaming people that are on assistance, heck if people could learn just by shaming them, then folks in the amusement industry should only have to yell at help once and the same mistake would never happen again. What are the chances of that.


First, I don't have any problem with veterans getting everything they need, emphasis on need, for health care. That was part of the contract. You sign up, go take a chance on getting killed defending us, and we'll take care of your health care forever.

I really don't have a problem with seasonal workers collecting unemployment up to the amount they and their employers paid in. That money would have been in their paychecks if the government hadn't seized it.

On to what I do have a problem with. I have an ex wife that we the taxpayers have bought THREE knee joint replacements for. She's so big she broke one. And she rides a scooter to boot. We, the taxpayers,are paying her rent and all her expenses. I agree with Pinetar, tell her and everybody like her to get her body in order or go die.

I have a problem with Georgia using debit cards for food stamps so others won't know they're getting assistance. There should be a separate foodstamp checkout lane so everybody knows. There used to be certain amount of shame in accepting charity.

I have a problem with people using quotes from the bible to try to prove a point. There is so much conflicting text in different versions of the bible that you can prove any point you want by taking a few verses out of context.